Comments on: KDE4 Released, Not Really Ready Already http://doombook.com/2008-01-30-kde4-released-not-really-ready-already.html Damned Good Literature Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:51:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Chris Bergeron http://doombook.com/2008-01-30-kde4-released-not-really-ready-already.html/comment-page-1#comment-1781 Chris Bergeron Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:04:55 +0000 http://doombook.com/2008-01-30-kde4-released-not-really-ready-already.html#comment-1781 Heh, that's why I keep op-ed on the weblog instead of doing article formats :). I couldn't get the drag-drop functions working.. I figured that a user should be able to bring the widgets to the doc in that fashion, given the lack of other configurations. So I'll chalk it up to Ubuntu and Xorg for now, until I've got a newer version on here. Thanks for the heads up :). Heh, that’s why I keep op-ed on the weblog instead of doing article formats :) . I couldn’t get the drag-drop functions working.. I figured that a user should be able to bring the widgets to the doc in that fashion, given the lack of other configurations.

So I’ll chalk it up to Ubuntu and Xorg for now, until I’ve got a newer version on here. Thanks for the heads up :) .

]]> By: Tsiolkovsky http://doombook.com/2008-01-30-kde4-released-not-really-ready-already.html/comment-page-1#comment-1780 Tsiolkovsky Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:41:33 +0000 http://doombook.com/2008-01-30-kde4-released-not-really-ready-already.html#comment-1780 The new version is usable just fine here. I also first tried it on Kubunutu, but had many problems with it. After a suggestion of a friend I tried it on Mandriva 2008 and here it works a lot better. So it looks like (K)ubuntu still has some packaging problems with KDE 4.0. As for the display issues I would gess it is the dislplay drivers that could be buggy, maybe even the Xorg itself. KDE 4 series uses a lot of new technology for displaying graphics and has already uncovered a lot of bugs in Xorg and display drivers. So make sure you have all the latest versions of those, and even the latest versions still have some known bugs that will have to be fixed. KDE developers can't do much about this. Oh and it looks like you didn't use KDE 4.0 long enough to discover that you can drag plasmoid widgets directly to the panel. So no need to have them only on desktop. And if you have them on the desktop you can simply press Ctrl+F12 and they immidiately pop into the foreground. I myself find this very first version from the completely new series of KDE quite OK. I still remember KDE 3.0.0, which had far less new features and changes but was still worse then KDE 4.0.0. And just look at how awesome KDE 3 series is today. I'm confident that KDE 4.0 will quickly stabilize, get up to speed with KDE 3.5 and the excellent foundations allow it to surpass it quite a lot on all fronts. But yes for now KDE 4.0.X is targeted at developers, brave users that don't mind using cutting edge software and for active users who are willing to take some time and help make the desktop better by reporting bug reports and in any other way they can help. The new version is usable just fine here. I also first tried it on Kubunutu, but had many problems with it. After a suggestion of a friend I tried it on Mandriva 2008 and here it works a lot better. So it looks like (K)ubuntu still has some packaging problems with KDE 4.0.

As for the display issues I would gess it is the dislplay drivers that could be buggy, maybe even the Xorg itself. KDE 4 series uses a lot of new technology for displaying graphics and has already uncovered a lot of bugs in Xorg and display drivers. So make sure you have all the latest versions of those, and even the latest versions still have some known bugs that will have to be fixed. KDE developers can’t do much about this.

Oh and it looks like you didn’t use KDE 4.0 long enough to discover that you can drag plasmoid widgets directly to the panel. So no need to have them only on desktop. And if you have them on the desktop you can simply press Ctrl+F12 and they immidiately pop into the foreground.

I myself find this very first version from the completely new series of KDE quite OK. I still remember KDE 3.0.0, which had far less new features and changes but was still worse then KDE 4.0.0. And just look at how awesome KDE 3 series is today. I’m confident that KDE 4.0 will quickly stabilize, get up to speed with KDE 3.5 and the excellent foundations allow it to surpass it quite a lot on all fronts.

But yes for now KDE 4.0.X is targeted at developers, brave users that don’t mind using cutting edge software and for active users who are willing to take some time and help make the desktop better by reporting bug reports and in any other way they can help.

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